Saturday, 6 February 2016

Islam’s Notion of Peace

Islam’s Notion Of Peace


Islam both steals from, and bastardizes, the Babylonian Talmud, and it is also exceedingly disingenuous.

Ask almost any liberal minded sort, and they will tell you that (or that they’ve heard that) – “Islam’s all about peace”.  One of the single most popularly quoted, inferred or referred to passages from the Qur’an (Koran) is Sura (Chapter) 5 Al-Ma'idah (the table spread) Ayah (Verse) 32. This verse, which contains between 74 and 86 words depending on the English translation / transliteration of the Qur’an being used, is by far the single most commonly cited text used by those who seek to illustrate that Islam is about, or that the word Islam itself somehow means, “peace”.

And the most commonly quoted part of this Verse contains between 28 and 39 words (so between 32% and 53% of the whole).  Is 32% to 53% of the whole a big deal?  I don’t know, you be the judge.  Following are two sets of quotes for Sura 5 Ayah 32, from two different English renderings of the Qur’an.  The first full quote of Sura 5:32 is from - “Yusuf Ali”, the second full quote is from the “Sahih International”

Following each of the two full quotes is a shorter commonly used version.  The first of these shorter quotes, is one as used by a Muslim fellow only identified as “Nazam, from the UK” where he made reference to a comment about a would-be Times Square bomber
[9], which follows the Yusuf Ali quote.  The second short quote, which follows the full text of Sura 5:32, as rendered in the Sahih International, is in two forms. Both are from the Sahih International, one includes the intro – “We decreed upon the Children of Israel” – and though this is somewhat uncommon for members of Islam to cite that intro, it has been known to happen. The other does not include the intro – “We decreed upon the Children of Israel”.

Following are the two sets of quotes, both in full and abbreviated (absent context) forms:


On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles [messengers] with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. – Contains 86 words…

if any one killed a person, it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind; and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole of mankind [1] – Contains 38 words…


Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul . . . - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely

whoever kills a soul - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely [2]


So what’s the big deal then right?  The verse does clearly state that to take even a single life, is to take all of humanity’s lives.  And it also clearly states that to save even a single life, is that of saving all of humanity’s lives.  Or does it?

Let us begin by examining what the Ayah (Verse) opens with, shall we?  The verse opens with, in almost any English rendering of the Qur’anic texts:

“…the Children of Israel…”

News Flash kids, the Children of Israel are NOT Muslims, and the Muslim people are NOT in any way, shape or form, the Children of Israel.  That verse is an absolute and direct plagiarizing of Talmud.  In the Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin: Chapter 4, Folio 37a, that very thought is laid out squarely.  Again, perhaps you are thinking – “big deal” – or – “so what” – both Jews and Muslims share a common piece of Scripture?  Not so fast cowboy.  Again the Qur’an verse opens with the Children of Israel, so even if it’s a valid piece of “scripture” contained in an Islamic book, it’s for the Children of Israel, and NOT for Islam or Muslims.

Continuing though, there is an additional “qualifier” (if you will) that has been placed into Islam’s Qur’anic text, NOT found in Talmud.  The qualifier reads:

“…unless it be for murder OR for spreading mischief in the land…” [emphasis in all CAPS mine]

As the writer of the Article found in “Answering Islam” titled “Quran 5:32, Nazam, and Neglecting Context” points out – “The would-be Times Square bomber considers Americans to be spreading mischief in Palestine and around the world (practically all Muslims I know think this, even the ones who are American citizens). Accordingly, even if this verse were to apply to someone like Faisal Shahzad
[9], he would still be justified in his slaughter.” – Again, to the Muslim mindset, causing, spreading or in any way promoting “mischief” in the land is a very, very broad term.  If you do not wish to believe this, ask any Muslim that you know to define three things for you:

A) – What is causing mischief in the land?
B) – What does it mean to wage war against Allah?


C) - What does it mean to wage war against Allah’s Messenger(s)?

If you are able to get a straight, understandable and discernable answer for all three, I would indeed be very surprised.  In the broadest sense, everything from drawing a cartoon (even a respectful one) of Muhammad, to me writing this Blog, to Nato’s troops presence in any of the Islamic-controlled Middle Eastern Kingdoms, all constitute violating at least one, if not ALL three, of “A”, “B” and “C” above.  Let that sink (sync) in for a spell…

Continuing, no single text should ever be taken as an isolated, stand-alone passage, without context.  Ergo, I recommend reviewing Ayah (Verse) 33, or better still read Sura 5:29 through 5:37 for some contextual substance.  Beginning with Verse 33 look at what it says:

The PUNISHMENT of those WHO WAGE WAR AGAINST ALLAH and HIS MESSENGER, and strive with might and main FOR MISCHIEF THROUGH THE LAND is: EXECUTION, or CRUCIFIXION, or the CUTTING OFF OF HANDS AND FEET from opposite sides, or EXILE from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter” - Yusuf Ali [emphasis in all CAPS mine]

As can be clearly seen from Verse 33 causing mischief in the land, as denoted earlier in Verse 32 is just cause (under Islamic Sharia Law) for execution…  This my friends is Islam’s Notion of Peace To thoroughly subjugate any and all who are not, according to and as defined by the Qur’an, Hadiths, Sunnah of Muhammad and the Iman of Islam, in total oppressed submission to the allaah (of Islam’s fame).  For those unsure of who Islam’s allaah is, please see “Who is Allaah”.

Now, please, think on these things before telling others that – “Islam’s all about peace” – do you have peace?  Would you like peace?  Would you like to know peace?

“No Jesus, NO peace” and yet, “Know Jesus, KNOW peace”

How does one get to “know” Jesus?  Simple, invite Him into your heart, as Jesus says: “Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.” [Revelation 3:20 NIV]  How can we be assured that this Jesus stuff means anything?  Well because the Bible tells us so, as the Apostle Paul wrote:

“If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.” [Romans 10:9-10 NIV]

And for those of you who say to me, I can’t be bothered reading the Bible, “it’s confusing” or “it’s a waste of my time”, may I draw your attention to what the Bible says about wisdom: “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.” [Proverbs 9:10 NIV]

If nothing else, PLEASE read two chapters from the Bible – (don’t own one, sorry NO excuse, if you’re reading this, you can access this: John 3 and John 14!

John 3:16 says:  “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

And John 14:6 says: “Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Well that’s it, that’s Da Bauz’s take on, Islam’s Notion of Peace, this 6th day of January, 2016 © 2016, All Rights Reserved. wr (Da Bauz, Christian Zionist “creationist” too!)

Just sayin’...

What is #RAD?  #RAD is:

R epent of rejecting Christ
A ccept Christ as your Lord
D evelop your relationship with the Living Almighty God Himself as your personal Lord and Saviour

John 3:16, Revelation 3:20, Romans 10:9 -10, Revelation 21:27, II Corinthians 5:21 and I John 5:13 / John 20:31!


Incidentally the theme of killing or saving but one life, equating to doing the same to the whole world appears in three other distinct Rabbinical writings - Pirkei deRabbi Eliezer ch. 47, Eliyahu Rabbah 11, and in Yalkut Shimoni on Exodus 166 [3]  All of which has its origins in Talmud [7], see also [8]

Cited or consulted sources and resources

Pirkei deRabbi Eliezer ch. 47, [4]

Eliyahu Rabbah 11, [5]

Yalkut Shimoni on Exodus 166 [6]

[1] - - “Answering Muslims”

[2] - - “The Noble Qur’an”

[3] - - “The real Truth about Talmud ( לאמיתה על תַלמוּד )”

[4] - - “Full text of "Pirkê de Rabbi Eliezer”

[5] - - Wiki Article

[6] - - Wiki article

[7] - - “Tractate Sanhedrin: Chapter 4, Folio 37a”

[8] - - “Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Sanhedrin, Folio 37a”

[9] - Faisal Shahzad - a Pakistani-American citizen who was arrested for the attempted May 1, 2010, Times Square car bombing. - “Bible Hub” - “BibleGateway”

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