Tuesday 10 October 2017

Biblical Canon


Biblical Canon

#‎RAD #‎ATEND G-d (Christ) #‎IIC714

Biblical Canon

The 66 Books of the Holy Bible, or of Canon, are the focus of many a discussion in 2017. 

It is my firm contention that either G-d (Christ) got it right, 66 Books or...

Or the gawd who screwed up, over a millennia ago, is a bumbling FOOL...

Is it possibly Cognitive Dissonance* for one to refuse to even consider the alleged suggestions, by a few, that some books should be added, others ought to be omitted, and still other books should be re-worded, in what we call Canon?

In recent days I've read numerous comments by many folks alleging myriad alterations be made to Canon.  Claims like:

Claim made:

"... canon[sic] has the essential concept but Maccabbees was removed because... the church didn't want to give up their culture."

"You do realize men created the contents of the bible..."

Replies / rebuttals:

"No, men did not create the contents of the Bible.  G-d (Christ) inspired men to write, what He saw fit to be written. And of the myriad books floating around claiming to be Scripture, only what G-d wanted to have included, was included.  To claim otherwise, renders one's god, a useless appendage, yes."

~~~

Question asked:

“How do you feel about the pope declaring lucifer God?”

RE: "How do you feel about the pope declaring lucifer God?"

A) - I do not really care what the Pope says,
B) - frankly I resent the implication that everything about traditional Christian values is somehow a by-product of the "evil roman empire" and
C) - (Perhaps this one should have been "A") Did the pope really declare lucifer, G-d?

~~~

Claim made:

Also, this is not a matter of salvation... this is an issue of whether this scroll was of wisdom from the holy spirit..."

"God didn’t[sic] say hey here is the 66 books I am going to inspire and that’s[sic] it... God is living... I am amazed over the wisdom that is found in the mainstream collection of books of jewish[sic] and yahweh[sic] inspiration, read TITUS, and we find God wanted us to live like the creatins[sic]..."

Replies / rebuttals:

"IF one says Canon is Flexible... as some do, then the god one serves, in my humble opinion, is too weak, too emaciated, too useless for her shed blood to mean anything... IF..."

"Correct... ALL cults have their own versions of a bastardized set of "scriptures"...

The Mormons have theirs
The JW's have theirs
And other Groups, Groups that say

The gospel of Mary should be canonized
The gospel of Judas should be canonized
The book of Enoch should be canonized
The book of Moses should be canonized
The book of _____ should ALSO be canonized

The above are all cults who tear away at the authority of G-d's (Christ's) Holy Word, the 66 Books of Canon!"

"The bottom line remains:

If anyone can add anything to Canon, or take anything away from Canon... in other words if Canon is NOT settled... then...

Then anyone, ANY ONE can add to, or take out, what ever they want, whenever they want. 

And when we set ourselves up as smarter than god, who by implication was too inept to get his word right 2,000 years ago, we set ourselves up as gods."

also

"Look, folks, the bottom line remains:

If anyone can add anything to Canon, or take anything away from Canon... in other words if Canon is NOT settled... then...

Then anyone, ANY ONE can add to, or take out, what ever they want, whenever they want. 

And when we set ourselves up as smarter than god, who by implication was too inept to get his word right 2,000 years ago, we set ourselves up as gods."

and

"I could not possibly care less what the pope says... who is the pope?  He did not die for you, or I!"

~~~

Claim made:

"The Catholic Church admits they possess the authority to change the sabbath to a Sunday[sic] on a man made[sic] calendar! Men or God?"

Replies / rebuttals:

First, did the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) admit, OR *make the CLAIM* that, they possess the authority to change, or make changes?"

Second, once more as I suggested earlier, I could not possibly care less what the pope, or RCC, says... who is the pope?  He did not die for you, or I!"

~~~

Claim made:

"This has been an issue of dumbing the population so it might make the leaders more capable of controlling them..."

Replies / rebuttals:

"Moving back to extra-biblical Books, like Maccabees, and other Apocryphal writings, first, permit me to suggest (again) philosophically that, either G-d's (Christ's) written Word is

Fixed or

It's open, fluid and subject to constant change."

and

"Next concerning the extra-biblical Books, like Maccabees, and other Apocryphal writings, permit me to ask:

Can G-d's (Christ's) Word (written Scripture) ever contradict itself?  Ever?

In the books of Maccabees, we read about something that contradicts not only the Canonical Scriptures, but in fact, contradicts each of the two books themselves.  For example, in both Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is said to have died three different deaths...

Three Different Deaths

This is a flagrant departure the clear tone of the 66 Books of Canon, and a blatant contradiction of Hebrews 9:27..."

~~~

Claim made:

"I find the book of Maccabbees very canon... we have been deceived... This is an outrage I guess, although it might have been removed for another reason more along the lines of they wanted to ease the people into the idea of jewish[sic] culture..."

Replies / rebuttals:

 from another Tweeter ~~ "I was told by someone I trusted that the Holy Bible we have today is what God wanted us to have. That’s why what we have has been preserved & stood the test of time. I was taught not to trust when people said there were parts missing so IDK. Hmm?" ~~

and

"Wise, very wise counsel, (from above tweeter)"

and

"Harsh as it sounds, the alternative to accepting that the Canon of G-d's (Christ's) Holy Word, the Bible, being fixed, AND is precisely what G-d wants N' wanted, is...

Anyone can change anything, at any time...

To argue that we've been deceived, beginning around 1,600 years ago, by counsels that in some cases have wanted to add other books as well as delete some, is to suggest that G-d is incompetent, incapable of safeguarding His own Word..."

additionally

"Besides the above, (and I know this is an anecdotal point, but) does anyone really think G-d's Word can contradict, itself?

Romans 4:3 & Genesis 15:6, pretty plainly, say - "Abe's faith / belief in and trust for G-d was counted as righteousness.  This is in keeping with Ephesians 2:8 - 10, and Habakkuk 2:4 - the just shall live by faith.

Contrast that with I Maccabees 2:52 which essentially states that:

Abe was found righteous because of his "works"."

and finally

"Last thing I am going to blather on about, regarding extra-biblical books, and Canon...

Someone believe that I Maccabees is Canon worthy. And...

The Mormons believe that the Books of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrine & Covenants, are Canon worthy. 

The JW's believe that the NWT, Watchtower Publication, bastardized version of the Bible, is Canon worthy. 

And, the Muslims (as well as some very liberal "christians" believe that the Qur'an is, Canon worthy... and...

Either G-d (Christ) got it right, 66 Books or...

Or gawd is a bumbling FOOL..."

66 Books folks… that is Canon, 66 Books!

*Cognitive Dissonance

“Cognitive Dissonance - the whole-being recoil at hearing something so incompatible with our beliefs, that it is offensive to our very being.

For example - when someone tells us that the earth is flat... Whaaaat?!” – Mr. Roland Hildebrant

“No Jesus, NO peace” and yet, “Know Jesus, KNOW peace”

How does one get to “know” Jesus?  Simple, invite Him into your heart, as Jesus says: “Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.” [Revelation 3:20 NIV]  How can be assured that this Jesus stuff means anything?  Well because the Bible tells us so, as the Apostle Paul wrote:

“If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.” [Romans 10:9-10 NIV]

And for those of you who say to me, I can’t be bothered reading the Bible, “it’s confusing” or “it’s a waste of my time”, may I draw your attention to what the Bible says about wisdom: “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.” [Proverbs 9:10 NIV]

If nothing else, PLEASE read two chapters from the Bible – (don’t own one, sorry NO excuse, if you’re reading this, you can access this: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%203:16&version=NIV) John 3 and John 14!

John 3:16 says: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

And John 14:6 says: “Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Well that’s it, that’s Da Bauz’s Take on, “Biblical Canon” – this 10th day of October 2017 © 2017, All Rights Reserved. wr (Da Bauz, Christian Zionist “creationist” too!)

Just sayin’...

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem...

What is #RAD? #RAD is:

R epent of rejecting Christ
A ccept Christ as your Lord
D evelop your relationship with G-d

#RAD your relationship with the Living Almighty God Himself as your personal Lord and Saviour depends on it!

What is #ATEND G-d (Christ)?  Ask me!

What is #IIC714?

II 2nd
C hronicles
7:14

John 3:16, Revelation 3:20, Romans 10:9 -10, Revelation 21:27, II Corinthians 5:21 and I John 5:13 / John 20:31!

Shalom

Cited or consulted sources and resources

Mr. Roland Hildebrant

http://bit.ly/1kliLwA, “Bible Hub”

http://bit.ly/1kliTMD, “Bible Gateway”

http://bit.ly/1MzWhEQ, “Bible.org”

http://bit.ly/2qPm835, “Bible.is”

http://bit.ly/2qOVbNd, “The Bible Project”

http://bit.ly/2qP1lg8, “Biblia”

http://bit.ly/2qP26FP, “Bible Study Tools”

http://bit.ly/2qP27JY, “Blue Letter Bible”




Monday 9 October 2017

Full Preterism – a Christian View?


Full Preterism – a Christian View?

#‎RAD ‪#‎ATEND G-d (Christ) ‪#‎IIC714

Full Preterism (FP) says that - all, ALL, prophecy in the Bible is, allegedly, history.  That would be all of Matthew 24

FP denies the future prophetic quality of the book of Revelation

FP teaches that ALL end-times prophecies of the New Testament were fulfilled in A.D. 70[1] when the Romans sacked, in the siege of Jerusalem

FP teaches that every event normally associated with the end times — Christ’s second coming, the tribulation, the resurrection of the dead, the millennial reign, the final judgment — Has Already Happened

FP teaches that Jesus’ return to earth was a “spiritual” return, Not a physical one

FP teaches that the Law was fulfilled in A.D. 70 and G-d’s (Christ’s) Covenant with Israel Has Ended (was ended, as of A.D. 70) – we are talking about flat out anti-Semitic Bigotry!

Note here, again, FP teaches that G-D’s COVENANT WITH ISRAEL HAS ENDED – this is the root of replacement theology[2] & anti-Semitic Bigotry. But according to - Jeremiah 31:33–36[3] G-d’s (Christ's) covenant with Israel is everlasting!

FP point to many extra-biblical writings, and of course Jesus’ own, “Olivet Discourse”[4] to bolster their argument.  After Jesus describes some of the end-times’ happenings, He says, “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened” (Matthew 24:34[5]). The preterist takes this to mean that everything Jesus speaks of in Matthew 24[6] had to have occurred within one generation of His speaking—the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 was therefore “Judgment Day.”

In II Timothy 2:17–18[7], Paul even warns against FP, and those, like Hymenaeus and Philetus, who teach falsely - “that the resurrection has already taken place” because they, and FP destroy the faith of some.

It is, simply put, a cult!

The Full Preterist (FP) quote of the day - "Futurism is a fairy-tale. Jesus will come surfing on a cloud any day now."

FP's... your stupidity*, or arrogance*, abounds... The very statement:

FP – “... Jesus 'Will Come' surfing on a cloud any day now.” - is, by very nature, definition and substance, a statement of - "Futurism".  

The logical conclusion of FP, aside from Anti-Semitic bigotry**, is that "ALL things" including Jesus promised return; the terrible Tribulation period; and the Millennial reign of Christ, are ALL past tense.  Done.  History...

So, which is it?  Sheer stupidity, or immeasurable arrogance on YORE parts FP?

* The sheer stupidity, or arrogance of the FP:

The FP claim that - ALL of Matthew 24, indeed ALL of Scripture regarding Jesus the Christ / Yeshua Ha Mashiach (Rabbi Yeshua bar Yosef) was fulfilled, on, or no later than A.D. 70...

The glorious Second Coming, according to the FP, occurred on or before A.D. 70...

The great tribulation period, according to the FP, occurred on or before A.D. 70...

The 1,000 Millennial Reign of Christ, also somehow has to be history, and wholly fulfilled, according to the FP, on or before A.D. 70...

There are only three possible reasons to even consider what the FP says,

A) - One does not care if the FP's gawdess is satan herself***...

B) - One does not care if the FP's bigoted, Anti-Semitic views that – “Our gawd*** is dun with them evil Jews.  They'll never be a nation again following their just decimation in A.D. 70...” is completely unbiblical, or not…

Or C) - One really does not truly *know* the real Jesus of Nazareth; the Jesus born of a virgin; the Jesus whom we ourselves crucified, personally... and though they may pray to a jesus, and do so daily, with fervency, the jesus whom they pray to, and think they have a relationship with, is none other than - a minion of satan's! A familiar spirit...

** The Anti-Semitic bigotry of the FP:

The classic FP claim is that the god*** / gawdess*** of the FP is – “So very done with the “evil” vermin that were the Christ-killing Jews, that she herself*** committed genocide by wiping out roughly 1.2 million Jews in A.D. 70, such that neither the Jews and the “evil” nation of Israel, will ever be heard from again.”  The implications of this FP claim are both simple, and astoundingly bigoted, not too mention flagrantly STUPID*. 

*** Satan as a she, see Luke 12:32

Of course, the FP have an answer for all the above, from the promised return of Jesus, to the Great and Terrible Tribulation period and the Millennial reign of Christ, in terms of how they are somehow FUTUREIST (yet to come), yet ALL… ALL things, according the FP, contained in Matthew 24, and indeed in ALL of Scripture regarding Jesus, is somehow “Past Tense”.  All things, from promised return, the Great Tribulation period and the Millennial Reign, right through to how their vulgar claims regarding modern day Jews are somehow “Not racist at all”, but… but those of us who recognize, and honour Genesis 12:3, and understand that, in spite of John 14:6 and Acts 4:12, which clearly state that no one, NOT even the Jews, has a future with G-d, outside of Jesus, the Jew according to Deuteronomy 7:6-8 is, and as G-d never changes, and His promises (Covenants) everlasting, the Jew ever shall be “G-d’s Chosen People”.  A theme which Paul further supports with Romans 1:16 – “…To The Jew First…”, we somehow to the FP are the racist bigots?

That is why, in my humble opinion, in point “C” above, I take the plain stand that the FP,
though they may pray to “a jesus”, and do so daily, the jesus whom they pray to, and think they have a relationship with, is none other than - a minion of satan's! A familiar spirit.

“No Jesus, NO peace” and yet, “Know Jesus, KNOW peace”

How does one get to “know” Jesus?  Simple, invite Him into your heart, as Jesus says: “Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.” [Revelation 3:20 NIV]  How can be assured that this Jesus stuff means anything?  Well because the Bible tells us so, as the Apostle Paul wrote:

“If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.” [Romans 10:9-10 NIV]

And for those of you who say to me, I can’t be bothered reading the Bible, “it’s confusing” or “it’s a waste of my time”, may I draw your attention to what the Bible says about wisdom: “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.” [Proverbs 9:10 NIV]

If nothing else, PLEASE read two chapters from the Bible – (don’t own one, sorry NO excuse, if you’re reading this, you can access this: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%203:16&version=NIV) John 3 and John 14!

John 3:16 says: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

And John 14:6 says: “Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Well that’s it, that’s Da Bauz’s Take on, “Full Preterism” – this 9th, day of October 2017 © 2017, All Rights Reserved. wr (Da Bauz, Christian Zionist “creationist” too!)

Just sayin’...

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem...

What is #RAD? #RAD is:

R epent of rejecting Christ
A ccept Christ as your Lord
D evelop your relationship with G-d

#RAD your relationship with the Living Almighty God Himself as your personal Lord and Saviour depends on it!

What is #ATEND G-d (Christ)?  Ask me!

What is #IIC714?

II 2nd
C hronicles
7:14

John 3:16, Revelation 3:20, Romans 10:9 -10, Revelation 21:27, II Corinthians 5:21 and I John 5:13 / John 20:31!

Shalom


[1] – “What biblical prophecies were fulfilled in AD 70?” – GotQuestions.org
[2] – “What is replacement theology / supersessionism?” – GotQuestions.org
[3] – “Jeremiah 31:33–36” – Biblia.com
[4] – “What is the Olivet Discourse?” – GotQuestions.org
[5] – “Matthew 24:34” – Biblia.com
[6] – “Matthew 24:1 - 51” – Biblia.com
[7] – “Timothy 2:17–18” – Biblia.com

http://bit.ly/1kliLwA, “Bible Hub”

http://bit.ly/1kliTMD, “Bible Gateway”

http://bit.ly/1MzWhEQ, “Bible.org”

http://bit.ly/2qPm835, “Bible.is”

http://bit.ly/2qOVbNd, “The Bible Project”

http://bit.ly/2qP1lg8, “Biblia.com”

http://bit.ly/2qP26FP, “Bible Study Tools”

http://bit.ly/2qP27JY, “Blue Letter Bible”