Friday, 11 June 2021

THE “PROSPERITY HERESY...” OR “THE HERESY OF THE PROSPERITY MESSAGE” HERESY? REALLY?

 

The “Prosperity heresy...” or “The Heresy of the Prosperity message” Heresy?  Really?

Will you, or will you NOT, cut the CRAP people?

Either define the alleged departure(s) from the "primary Christian doctrine(s)" / fundamental Core Tenets of the Christian Faith, and... AND specifically define, with examples of these alleged departures from the "primary Christian doctrine", or... Or, shut the hell up!

Better still, first define what this / these alleged "primary Christian doctrine(s)" is or are?

Let me help you out:

Tenets of the Christian Faith (a.k.a. "primary Christian doctrines)

Following is a list that I feel is a good (although NOT necessarily exhaustive) list of the Core Tenets of the Christian Faith:

i.                    The Virgin birth of Jesus the Christ / Yeshua ha Mashiach (Rabbi Yeshua bar Yosef)

ii.                  That Jesus is the Son of G-d

iii.                The Deity of Jesus, as He is G-d

iv.                That Jesus the Christ is the ONLY way to G-d the Father

v.                  That we Are Saved by Grace Through Faith – Not by Works

vi.                The INCARNATION of Jesus Christ (Word made Flesh)

vii.              The actual Death of Jesus

viii.            The Bodily Resurrection of Christ

ix.                The Ascension of Christ

x.                  The Holy Bible is the Inspired and Infallible Word of G-d (Christ)

xi.                The Holy Trinity

xii.              The Second Coming of Jesus Christ, the Messiah / Yeshua ha Mashiach (Rabbi Yeshua bar Yosef)

If we can agree, at least in principle, on the above 12 points, great.  If not, feel free to SPECIFICALLY identify what it is that is errant, or incorrect, about the 12 points listed.

From there, then, please, absolutely feel free to demonstrate, precisely what it is, out those 12 points, that Copeland, Jakes, Osteen violates.  

I'll even begin, 

Osteen violates xi - "The Holy Trinity" and iii "The Deity of Jesus, as He is G-d" - in that Osteen preaches Mormonism (which teaches Jesus is a created being, and half-sibling to Lucifer) is a valid form of Christianity.  That, "the Mormonism is valid" claim is what marks Osteen a heretic.  Not his bank account, his house, his cars, or jet(s?).

You ask a really asinine question, a question that really doesn't even deserve the dignity of being acknowledged, much less a response, nonetheless, I will respond:

RE: "where is... prosperity... taught anywhere in the Bible?" (Yes, I know, I very intentionally left out the jackassery of the two other words you used, "...THE prosperity GOSPEL...")

Jeremiah 29:11, comes to mind, as a direct statement of a direct - “... declaration of prosperity in the Bible...” – “plans for your welfare, not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope.” - HCSB, see also Jeremiah 30:18; John 10:10; Luke 6:38...

The #WoF (Word of Faith) movement (unless you can show me specifics of where it does) does NOT teach anything that is, in any way, in direct contradiction of any of the points in my above list of twelve.  At least not that I'm aware of.  If you have a specific example of any express departure(s) from those 12 points, feel free to chime in.

If, on the other hand folks, you or any of your friends, feel some deep burning need to point to Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21 & Luke 18:22 and saying... – “See... see!  Jesus done told the rich young ruler to sell ALL that he had, and give ALL of it away..."

I've but one question for ALL of you (or anyone else that loves to hone in on Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21 & Luke 18:22):

Have you personally SOLD EVERYTHING, house, clothing, cars, motorcycles, boats, jewelry, jet-skis, etc., and are you living in "just the clothes on your back, with no spares, and homeless, as Jesus evidently was" (at least according to those who LOVE to hate the WoF, claim that Jesus was)?  If not, why not?  How dare you violate Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21 & Luke 18:22!!!

Of course - the rich young ruler - was but only one of three (really one of FOUR) very wealthy people noted in the various exchanges with Jesus.  With respect to the other two, Nicodemus and Zacchaeus, unless my translation of the Bible is wrong, Jesus said NOTHING to them about – “Selling EVERYTHING (cars, house, boat, jet-sky, motorcycle, clothes, jewelry, leather goods, etc.) and giving it ALL away to the poor”.  Nope, in the cases of both Nicodemus and Zacchaeus, Jesus was silent about their respective wealth.

Unless your Bible renders John 3:1 - 15 and Luke 19:1 - 10 thusly?

“Whoa, Nicodemus, you're TOO rich for heaven...” John 3:1 - 15, you know what I mean? or

“Wow, Zacchaeus I can't preach to you until you're poorer.” - Luke 19:1 - 10

Oh, and then there's that other rich dude, what was his name... oh yeah, Joseph of Arimathea, who donated his Tomb for Jesus' burial... 

Too bad Jesus didn't direct Joseph of Arimathea to – “Sell ALL and to give ALL away” - as He so very clearly did with that Rich Young Ruler - Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21 & Luke 18:22!  

Image that... had Jesus just been effective enough in His Earthly Ministry to have told Joseph of Arimathea to – “Sell ALL and to give ALL away” - as He so very clearly did with that Rich Young Ruler in Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21 & Luke 18:22, then perhaps Joseph of Arimathea wouldn't also be forever lost, due to the ‘heresy of Prosperity...’ not to mention, of course, had Jesus told Joseph of Arimathea to – “Sell ALL, and give ALL away” - there'd be no tomb for Jesus... 

But sure, - “The prosperity message” - is both unbiblical and anti-Gospel... ok *sigh* 😒🙄

Above all else folks, please, please, please always remember that there's just absolutely #noKnowledgeAbsentGd!

#RAD #Rms1vs19to21 #IICh714 

“No Jesus, NO peace” and yet, “Know Jesus, KNOW peace”

How does one get to “know” Jesus?  Simple, invite Him into your heart, as Jesus says: “Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.” [Revelation 3:20 NIV]  How can be assured that this Jesus stuff means anything?  Well because the Bible tells us so, as the Apostle Paul wrote:

“If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.” [Romans 10:9-10 NIV]

And for those of you who say to me, I can’t be bothered reading the Bible, “it’s confusing” or “it’s a waste of my time”, may I draw your attention to what the Bible says about wisdom: “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.” [Proverbs 9:10 NIV]

If nothing else, PLEASE read two chapters from the Bible – (don’t own one, sorry NO excuse, if you’re reading this, you can access this: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%203:16&version=NIV) John 3 and John 14!

John 3:16 says: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”

And John 14:6 says: “Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Well, that’s it, that’s Da Bauz’s Take on, “The Heresy of the Prosperity message” – this 11th day of June 2021 © 2021, All Rights Reserved. wr (Da Bauz, Christian Zionist “creationist” too!)

Just sayin’...

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem...

What is #RAD? #RAD is:


R epent of rejecting Christ

A ccept Christ as your Lord

D evelop your relationship with G-d

#RAD your relationship with the Living Almighty God Himself as your personal Lord and Saviour depends on it!

What is #ATEND G-d (Christ)?  Ask me!

What is #IIC714?

II 2nd

C hronicles

7:14 

John 3:16, Revelation 3:20, Romans 10:9 -10, Revelation 21:27, II Corinthians 5:21 and I John 5:13 / John 20:31!

Shalom

 

Cited or consulted sources, references, and resources

 

http://bit.ly/1kliLwA, “Bible Hub”

http://bit.ly/1kliTMD, “Bible Gateway”

http://bit.ly/1MzWhEQ, “Bible.org”

http://bit.ly/2qPm835, “Bible.is”

http://bit.ly/2qOVbNd, “The Bible Project”

http://bit.ly/2qP1lg8, “Biblia”

http://bit.ly/2qP26FP, “Bible Study Tools”

http://bit.ly/2qP27JY, “Blue Letter Bible”

 

 


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